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Matt
Sitar Pop Oct 31, 2003 06:12 p.m.

Being something of a genre pirate myself, I thought it might be fun to start a thread of everyone's favorite CDs that use Indian instruments in a non-Classical way.

The Beatles (group and solo) don't count.

Here are a few of mine, to get things started:

Kula Shaker, "K" - British pop band with 60's and Eastern influences. Think Oasis on acid (instead of cocaine), joining a Hindu cult. As an aside, lead singer Crispin Mills is the son of "Parent Trap" actress Haley Mills.

Tabla Beat Science, "Tala Matrix" - awesome, deep ethnic dub produced by Bill Laswell, featuring Zakir Hussain and Sultan Khan.

Karsh Kale, "Realize" - drum & bass electronica featuring tabla - very cool.

Cornershop, "When I Was Born for the 7th Time" - alt-rock with some sweet Indian influences. Some nice sitar work too.

Have fun!
Remco
Re:Sitar Pop Oct 31, 2003 06:24 p.m.

Also a great band: The Teaparty (from Canada) Cool thing about them is that they really play their instruments on stage. A lot of bands will use these instruments as a novelty thing for the album, but the singer plays sarod, ud, sitar and hurdygurdy onstage. The bassplayer also plays harmonium. The singer btw has a great voice.
Recommended listening:
The edge of twilight
triptych (especially the special tour edition 2000, which has an extra CD with several live versions featuring the more exotic instruments)

Peace,

Remco
johnnysitarwhatson
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 01, 2003 11:18 a.m.

Pipeline - by the Bombay Beach Boys
(actualy the Rhino Brothers - strange surf
sounds with sitar and tabla)
AJ
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 01, 2003 11:57 a.m.

They wouldn't happen to use a surbahar for the bass part, would they?

Man that'd be WAY TOO KEWL! : )

AJ
AJ
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 01, 2003 11:54 a.m.

johnnysitarwhatson (Nov 01, 2003 11:18 a.m.):
Pipeline - by the Bombay Beach Boys
(actualy the Rhino Brothers - strange surf
sounds with sitar and tabla)

wow "Pipeline" on a sitar!?!!!

who needs drugs, eh!!! haha!
what a trip! I'd love to hear THAT!!!
You wouldn't happen to have an mp3 of that, would ya, JohnnySitarWhatson???

That's kewl!
AJ : )
johnnysitarwhatson
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 01, 2003 01:19 p.m.

I don't have. But could make, maybe -
old computer. Where to?
AJ
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 01, 2003 10:18 p.m.

johnnysitarwhatson (Nov 01, 2003 01:19 p.m.):
I don't have. But could make, maybe -
old computer. Where to?

Email addy's in my profile. . . . .!
Wow thanks! That sounds great!
Funny, such an odd concept in a way, it's been in my head ALL day today!
"Pipeline" on sitar! that's too kewl!

AJ : )
Jaym
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 03, 2003 10:23 a.m.

This idea of sitar pop raises an issue that I am having. I can't stand it! I really enjoy sitar in it's pure form and just cannot get into any pop use except the beatles because, well, its the beatles.
there is one jazz group however, that uses the sitar in a cool way. They are called Mukta. . .I do like them. anyone else hear of them?
johnnysitarwhatson
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 03, 2003 10:34 a.m.

I hate to admit that I saw them on concert some time ago. They are from France and into jazzy things. Nice.

Now would someone please hit me for knowing who Mukdha is? Come on, Johnnysitartrollone:-)
johnnysitarwhatson
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 03, 2003 01:12 p.m.

Ouch - obviously the last sentences in my last post were raudra shit. Problem is I can't edit them out, as I have lost my password and the password retrieve function doesn't work. Strange - for posting email ady is okay, for editing, not?
Amitava
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 03, 2003 01:28 p.m.

Prem Joshua www.premjoshua.com, Anand Shankar
Billy
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 07, 2003 10:22 a.m.

I guess if you're going to disqualify the Beatles, you should probably disqualify the Stones and other groups of the genre. But since you didn't, I still think Rolling Stones "Paint it Black" was one of the best use of sitar in a Rock song ever. Although overall, George Harrison was probably a better sitarist, I think Brian Jones really nailed it in Paint it Black, and was much better than anything the Beatles did.

I was thinking the Stones released this before Rubber Soul's "Norwegian Wood", but I just looked it up and I guess the Beatles won by about six months, at least in album releases. I haven't seen singles release dates, but at the time singles from both the Beatles and Stones generally preceded the albums by a few weeks.

Namaste',
Billy Godfrey
Jeff
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 07, 2003 05:33 p.m.

I think the use of sitar in any type of music is a good thing. It helps introduce the instrument to people who would otherwise be totally ignorant about it and maybe just a slight few may investigate, and take it up or explore its musical origins.
But I believe any sitar you would hear on any "newer" music is most likely a synthasizer. So who knows what the little brain dead teenie bopper gum smacking one hit wonder loving dance mix music crap record buying teenagers will think?
And those idiots that listen to the "RAP" they're probably 100% clueless about everything. They dont even have the sense about them to keep their pants above their Butt Cheeks.

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeffrey R King
johnnysitarwhatson
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 08, 2003 10:42 a.m.

Yes, nowadays it is synthie or sampled. BTw. I collect the ugliest and cheesiest sitar sounds from synthesizers. There are not many. My number one is the sitar from Rolands GR-1.
If anybody has a really awful synth sitar sound, please send me an mp3.

And: Do sounds from the Asian Underground/ Talvin Singh and thatlike qualify to be called sitar pop, or do we need to make a "sitar dance" category also?
Matt
Re:Sitar Pop Nov 08, 2003 01:23 p.m.

johnnysitarwhatson (Nov 08, 2003 10:42 a.m.):

And: Do sounds from the Asian Underground/ Talvin Singh and thatlike qualify to be called sitar pop, or do we need to make a "sitar dance" category also?

I think it counts! Talvin Singh is great - I also like DJ Cheb i Sabbah, who seems to do an exceptional job of blending tradition with electronica.
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