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sun
munda sitar Apr 01, 2002 03:51 p.m.

Hi guys
just want to tell you that my brother bought new munda sitar [ plain sitar ]
there is anyone knows how much its cost, i want to know if he paid the right price
the sitar is teack wood with good sound
i havent seen sitarists that play with this type of sitar , he look alittle bit boring without decorations on him
but the sound its what important no?
all the best
bye
Russ
Re:munda sitar Apr 02, 2002 11:51 a.m.

Hi. Is Munda the maker of your brother's sitar? Where did he buy it? Can't say I've heard of that one either. I think you're right that sound and play-ability is the most important thing. The very first sitar I ever bought some 32 years ago has no decorations, and I don't know who made it. But it sounds good even now although its tun wood.
sun
Re:munda sitar Apr 02, 2002 12:46 p.m.

Hi russ
my brother sitar is the plain model thats callded munda sitar
he bought it from varanci india i dont know who made it
i found picture of this sitar the artist called ustad habib khan so i guess its known type of sitar
i put him on a scale and his weight is 2 kg
i wanted to see if its pro. type
anyway iam happy from his sound
it can be tune from c to d no problem
ok all the best
bye bye
Russ
Re:munda sitar Apr 02, 2002 02:35 p.m.

Hi Sun;
Are you sure its only 2 Kg? That's the same as 4 1/2 pounds. If so, its either a baby sitar, or its not teak! A full size teak should weigh around 12-15 pounds, or around 27-34 Kg. Anyway, I've inquired about information on Habib Khan's sitar, and I will let you know what I find out.
sun
Re:munda sitar Apr 02, 2002 04:12 p.m.

Hi russ
listen the sitar weight is 2 kg but it dosent have two pumpkin , did you mean that teack sitar with two pumpkin should weight 2.7-3.4?
i have sitar that it dosent teack wood and he sound alot different and the sound in the munda one is much better and pro.
so i dont know which kind of wood but iam pretty sure that its teack wood
the sitar maker told my brother that its teack wood
i will be happy to hear from you
thanks alot
bye bye
Briedis
Re:munda sitar Apr 02, 2002 10:47 p.m.

Hi,

I just stumbled across a few Munda sitars at www.khazana.com.

Try this link:
http://www.khazana.com/et/products/product.asp?sku=INMI375&Region=
&Country=India&Department=Music+Instruments&Sub_Dept=Sitar&new_target
=/et/products/dept.asp&Next=0&List=True&mscsstcid=

It said this about it:
Single gourd, plain without decoration, dark colour (also available in natural color finish). 19-20 frets, 7 main strings and 11 sympathetic strings Professional Sound quality. Made of Tun wood, a highly resonant wood of the consistency of honey maple.

Tun Wood (Mahagoni) with Pumpkin gourd.

dimensions (h.w.d):
48 X 13 X 30 inches

List Price $400.00

Approx. US Shipping $25.10
Russ
Re:Modern day sitar design Apr 29, 2002 07:03 p.m.

I don't know. . . I think I'd rather go the Remco route and get a Chapman stick instead!
Russ
Re:munda sitar Apr 03, 2002 10:33 a.m.

Thanks Briedis. I haven't looked at Khazana in some time. $400 doesn't sound like too much for a plain sitar.

Sun, weighed my teak sitar last night on "bathroom" scales (I know, not very accurate). Read 8 pounds (3.62 kg). That's without second pumpkin gourd. Add that, its 8.5 pounds (3.85 kg). So, perhaps the extra decorations on mine adds another kg or so to the total weight, and yours at 2 kg is OK.

Whoa, what's going on with the font size growing rapidly as you read down the page? Are you all getting this?
Ken
Re:munda sitar Apr 03, 2002 05:14 p.m.

Hey Russ,
Yeah me too. I have to use my horizontal scroll to see the messages. Perhaps it will adjust itself out just as it has adjusted itself in. . .
KenO
Briedis
Re:munda sitar Apr 03, 2002 07:55 p.m.

Ken (Apr 03, 2002 05:14 p.m.):
Hey Russ,
Yeah me too. I have to use my horizontal scroll to see the messages. Perhaps it will adjust itself out just as it has adjusted itself in. . .

Oops, I think the link I posted is making it do that!

Sorry!
Russ
Re:munda sitar Apr 04, 2002 12:06 p.m.

Yes, 3 kg or so sounds about right. Does $400 sound about right for your brother's sitar? I guess the reason why teak may loose weight is because its a "wet" type of wood when fresh. Some of that moisture may evaporate over a long time, and it will get lighter and the sound will change too. Anyway, I'm also still getting used to sound differences between teak and tun. Well, now you know why I refer to my sitar as "she", just like a woman (ha). Anyway, hope you and your brother enjoy your instruments.
Ken
Re:munda sitar Apr 04, 2002 05:49 a.m.

Hey Briedis,
Naah, probably not, more likely just a glitch on the page. Several long links have been posted elsewhere on the site without this result. Really. . . I followed the link just to check out the $400 sitar. Looks like a nice little instrument to me and being very satisfied with my Tun wood Mangla this seems to be a decent entry level instrument.
KenO
sun
Re:munda sitar Apr 04, 2002 10:23 a.m.

Hi guys
i put my sitar munda on scale again and it was 3kg, i guess i was wrong last time that i put it on the scale
anyway i spoke with the guy that made the sitar in india and he said that its teack wood sitar and that in time all the teack wood sitar lose weight and sound better [ sound strange isnt it - loose weight , what its a women. . .ha ha ha]
i put also my teack sitar ravi shankar style and its about 3 kg he much heavy
because of the teack wood sitar is new [ not my brothers munda sitar] the sound is not like i want and its so difficult to get used to it
i wantes to see the move "ragamala" of ravi but i cant found it do you think that they have it in blockbaster ?
peace guys and thanks for your helo and effort
Russ
Re:munda sitar Apr 04, 2002 12:17 p.m.

Oh yeah;
Sun, I think you mean "Raga", the Ravi Shankar video? I saw it at Amazon.com for $20. Its possible BlockBuster has it, but I would be surprised! "Raga Mala" is his second book. I think you can get both items at Amazon for $45.
sun
Re:munda sitar Apr 04, 2002 05:09 p.m.

russ thank you for your help
and thank you all guys from these forum that help me and help each other
wish you all the best
i will be glad to help if i will can
bye bye
sun
Re:munda sitar Apr 05, 2002 06:25 a.m.

Hi russ
i just remmember that i want to ask you another thing : what is the best wood for sitar teack or tun
i mean what is it more pro. teack wood have better sound and the sitar last for long time
in the add from the link about the munda sitar it was made from tun wood and my brothers made from teack wood so it should be more expansive no?
i dont know the right price but it was more than 400$ , its a used sitar that got lighter with the years and its sound almost perfect i think
i am realy confusied from all the woods types
take care bye bye
Russ
Re:munda sitar Apr 05, 2002 10:04 a.m.

Sun;
Can't always go by price! I've seen tun (mahogany) sitars go anywhere from $250 for a "cheapie" to $2500 for the best Hiron Roy. In any case, a teak will go from around $800 to several thousand dollars for a custom Rikki Ram. In most cases, teak will be more expensive than tun.

You may have seen all the many opinions on this forum on teak vs tun. You might want to go back and take a look at some of them and decide for yourself. In my humble opinion, teak is not always better than tun, just different. It all comes down to personal preference in terms of sound. I own both, and I can say there is good and bad to both of them. If you take care of it, a tun will last as long as a teak. If you are happy with the one you have, then stay with that. Otherwise. . . .
neal
Re:munda sitar Apr 17, 2002 06:46 p.m.

Munda sitars I believe are made by Miraj.


Does anyone know anything about Kanai Lal Sitars?
Lars
Re:munda sitar Apr 17, 2002 08:22 p.m.

Hi Neal,
Click on this link to learn more about Kanai Lal, a very good article. Scroll down to it once the page loads. . .
http://www.ragascape.com/ragascapes.html

Enjoy. . .!
Russ
Re:munda sitar Apr 18, 2002 12:05 a.m.

Hey Lars;
Just read that article. Fascinating stuff! Thanks. I had no idea that Kanai Lal's brother was essentially the inventor of the modern sitar. Apparently Kanai himself didn't have much to do with it because of his early death. Wonder why the business and the sitar is in Kanai's name? Anyway, good to see Steve Landsburg's pages again (Ragascape). I used to go to his sitar performances frequently in Santa Fe as I lived near there. He was going to be my teacher, but my job came to an end there, and so did my living there. So, it never happened (sigh).
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