There are fundamental differences between Mian Ki Todi and Gujari Todi. Where Mian-ki-Todi has a Pa that is very weak, Gujari Todi has no Pa at all, therefore they sound very similar. The absence of Pa makes this rag shadav - shadav jati. As is typical of the vadi / samvadi theory there are differences of opinion concerning the vadi and samvadi; Dha, Ga, and Re have variously been declared to occupy these positions.
Shadav - Shadav - (general discussion of jati)
morning - (general discussion of time and rag)
Sa - Komal Dha - (general discussion of drone)
For more information check out "Elementary North Indian Vocal"
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