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yujoor
music as an international means of comunication Oct 13, 2001 02:10 p.m.

Helo everybody. .
i would like to introduce myself:
my name is ahmadibad and i am from afganistan.
in my profesion i am a simple sheperd,but the rest of the time i am a tabla musician.
what i would like to talk about is how music can discard political borders and create a unity between all cultres and people.
BuddhistMonk
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 14, 2001 12:15 a.m.

Ahmadibad, hello and nice to see you on these boards, I have been out for a few days visiting a college. Its great you hear you play the tabla. I am sure almost all musicians would agree music is a great intercultural and peaceful way of coming together. The problem after that is that how can we as musicians reach those who are not? We can play music to them, but hate is a strong force in the world. We will all have to have faith that peace and love will become strong forces once again. Music will only help that. So keep playing.

Also how is classical music in Afghanistan different than in hindustani Indian traditions. I have heard one raga by a musician in Afghanistan, it was just labled "Afghani Sitar" so I dont know much about it. Can you explain further if you will?
Russ
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 15, 2001 01:08 p.m.

[quote][b]yujoor (Oct 13, 2001 02:10 p.m.):[/b]
helo everybody. .
i would like to introduce myself:
my name is ahmadibad and i am from afganistan.
in my profesion i am a simple sheperd,but the rest of the time i am a tabla musician.
what i would like to talk about is how music can discard political borders and create a unity between all cultres and people.[/quote]

Hello Ahmadibad;
Saw your post and just had to reply. Unfortunately, I think physical borders will always exist as long as governments, politics and opposing religions do. Fortunately, cultural borders do not have to exist. Music is one of the few things that all humans have in common, and there will always be cross cultural interest. BuddhistMonk here is a big tabla fan, while I'm a big sitar and sarode fan. So, already you have reached us!

I hope the Afghani culture is not destroyed by this war. It is one of the most ancient on the earth.
Sita
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 16, 2001 07:30 a.m.

Last year I was in England at a Peace Festival, organized by the Sivananda Center in London. It was a ten day festival, and during these ten days representatives of all religions spoke about what peace meant in their religion. Besides, it was a cultural festival, too. There were of course Indian musicians, there were sufi musicians, a Gospel choir of 40 members, new age music, African drummers, native american music, klezmer and greek folk music and much more. It was an unforgettable adventure. Maybe politicians should attend more these events.

Blessing to everyone.
roh
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 22, 2001 12:54 a.m.

Hi Ahmadibad,

Good to hear from you. I am Rohan from India.

Music is a unfiying force for all sensible and sensitive people all over the world. We can hear the strains of peace and harmony underlying every note, every rhythm. But the sad part is the only sounds the people who rule us,ie, the politicians, can hear is of votes rustling in the ballot boxes. All their musical sensibilities are drowned out by the sycophantic voices all aorund them, that gives them a high like no other!

We, as responsible citizens of this planet can contribute towards global peace and harmony by getting carried away by some soul stirring music rather than the rhetoric churned out by these megalomaniacs. Forums like these will also really help in geting people like us, from all over the world to get in touch and share thoughts, ideas, experiences, music. Let us do our bit by getting more and more people involved in these forums.
BuddhistMonk
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 22, 2001 03:20 a.m.

Around my town since the terrorist attacks people are concentrating on stopping people who blame all Islams. We have had multi religious gatherings to learn about the religion and its past and talk about other issues and religions. But so far no music has been played, Im waiting patiently for the music. But at least there is an effort at keeping peace with the Islams In AMERICA. my town has been good about staying calm, unlike some texans I hear about shooting into Mosks and beating up middle easterners. That sort of thing going on makes me feel sick. America will stick together with the other countrys of the world, we need more music in times like this.
Russ
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 22, 2001 10:52 a.m.

Hi all
Been following this and thought I'd comment at least once more. Anyone is free to disagree with any of this. Its just opinion, and fortunately in America, we can still do this and not get "disappeared" in the night!

First, I would recommend Americans at some time in their life live overseas for a while. I spent several years in Panama as a child and a few years in South Korea in my high school days. I absorbed quite a bit of oriental culture, philosophy, and yes even religious ideas. The point is that the world does not revolve around the United States! Its a big world, and there are other fascinating cultures and people out there. Go out and get enlightened! Music was very much a door to the world for me, and it can be for you too.

Secondly, like all the sages have said,think for yourself! Don't depend on others to tell you what to do or think unless you're willing to take the consequences. Leaders will lead you where they want you to go. And don't believe everything you hear until you've heard both sides of the argument. Not only politicians, but the news media have to make a buck, so they have to go along with what ever's the popular opinion.

So, put flags on your car antennas and recite the pledge of allegiance twice a day if that works for you, but remember its whats going on between you ears that's most important!
BuddhistMonk
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 22, 2001 01:53 p.m.

Thank you russ,
-Monk
Sita
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 24, 2001 01:10 a.m.

Thank you Guys,

I am proud to be a member of these forums reading all these intelligent thoughts.

Blessings to you
Russ
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 24, 2001 01:02 p.m.

[quote][b]yujoor (Oct 13, 2001 02:10 p.m.):[/b]
helo everybody. .
i would like to introduce myself:
my name is ahmadibad and i am from afganistan.
in my profesion i am a simple sheperd,but the rest of the time i am a tabla musician.
what i would like to talk about is how music can discard political borders and create a unity between all cultres and people.[/quote]

Hello Ahmadibad. Hope we didn't loose you. Now that you've heard us, what does a simple shepard and tablaji think about this topic?
HanumanBaba
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 24, 2001 06:40 p.m.

Yes AHMADIBAD . . . Good comment !!! . . . Your suggestions are consistent with some of the SUFI Masters . . . are you from a SUFI group or community ??? . . . I began my working life as a SHEPHERD in the AUSTRALIAN outback (later rounding-up the animals using an AEROPLANE !!!). . . on the big properties and ranches in Australia and America, shepherds are commonly called Stockmen, Ringers, Cowboys . . . like the great spiritual personage KRISHNA . . . a wonderful experience !!! . . . Blessings !!!
yujoor
Re:music as an international means of comunication Oct 30, 2001 03:36 a.m.

Hello to all my new friends!!!
i am very exited to talk to you again.
i am sorry i was out for a while, but the only computer in the village is no longer connected to the net because the telephone lines have been destroyed.
fortunatly i met a very nice cnn reporter that let me use his celullar lap top computer.
so imidiatly i called you my good friends to let you know that i am fine.
in hard times like these my only comfort in life is playing the tabla and waching my sheep grow. but knowing that the good people like you on the net are out there, people that look for the good side of humanity ,rather then distruction and misunderstanding between people.
long live the music.
ill reply to all your questions when the telephone lines will be back, i have to return the computer to my good friend the reporter.
in the mean time keep sending those replies.

salam alekum
yujoor
yujoor
Re:music as an international means of comunication Nov 23, 2001 01:18 p.m.

Dear dear sita
it makes me so happy to know that somone cares for my well being and the well being of my country.
i am happy to say that now that the north allaiance has concoured most of the country the phone lines are partly working and i am back on the net.
becasuse the village i live in is so small and located in a remote regeon (in the vally of the "toba kakar mountains, near the city of "kalaty ilzai" that lyes on the banks of the "tarnak" river.)
i only heard the boming and saw the smoke but fortunatly we wernt hit.
well for some good news, a refugee from kabul pasing by gave me a very good bargin on his violin, we made a barter for a sheep. my famaly has meny sheep . because he had a famaly and were homles i gave him 2 sheep.
so i started playing the violin now and im doing a duet with my brother on the tabla.
very nice instrument violin it produses a sound that sends waves of emotion through the body.
well enough about me, what do you sita?
how is life in the west? is it true that you have cerial killers all around? is it really danngerous to walk at night in the streets?

i will be most delighted too hear from you soon sita and all my friends.
salam alekum
ahmadibad
Sita
Re:music as an international means of comunication Nov 15, 2001 09:57 a.m.

Hello Yujoor,

I hope you are not discouraged to post because noone answered you so far, and you don't think noone is interested if you are doing well. Actually, I am sure that everyone is interested here, all your new friends, it's just that everyone is waiting for the other to send a reply to you. So please, keep us updated about your being OK in the midst of the war. You must have a wonderful life with your tablas and sheeps, and what is nicer that you seem to be aware of it and appreciate it.

Best Wishes in the name of everyone
Sita
Re:music as an international means of comunication Nov 27, 2001 06:45 a.m.

Hi Yujoor,

Welcome back on the net. Everyone cares for you, and we are all very glad to know that you are doing well! Congratulations for your new purchase, the violin! I love the sound of it. I've just received a CD from a friend titled Menuhin meets Shankar, where Yehudi Menuhin and Ravi Shankar plays together. Can you imagine? It is a very unique music, as it is said that it is very difficult to play Indian classical notes and music with classical European violin. But Yehudi Menuhin is a great musician and resolved the problem very well. So I wish you all the good luck and success to play the violin!
Yujoor, if there were serial killer all around in the West, who would post on these forums? We would be all killed by now. .It is naturally not true, to live in the West can be just as safe or unsafe as to live in the East. I am doing well in Hungary, it is a tranquil country, and I am living in a very calm little town. I can walk by night (I often do) wherever I want, noone disturbs me.
I envy you a lot for your sheeps. I am a lover of animals.

Let us know how you proceed in playing the violin

Best Wishes
Sita
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