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Lurker
The Doors and Sitar Jun 07, 2004 03:31 p.m.


Did Krieger ever play sitar on any of The Doors recordings? I know he had studied sitar, but I think, at least on the early recordings, where it sounds like sitar is just his superioir guitar playing.

I thought about this while watching the movie "The Doors" the other day, as they segue from the Desert Peyote scene into "The End" at Whiskey-a-Go-Go scene, there seemed to be definite sitar, then it was more like guitar. Perhaps the sitar was just part of the segue.

I saw them in 68 or 69, I don't remember off hand which, but I know there weren't any sitars on stage then, at least not when the Doors were up (this was two days of music, lots of groups, mostly junk like Sonny and Cher, but a few highlights like McCoys and the Standells.)

The reason I thought of this is I'm listening to Nikhilji playing Raga Surdasi Malhar, and during the Alap, I could have sworn I heard him going up the same scale just like Robbie did in The End. Coincidence I'm sure, but it reminded me of the movie, hence the question.

pb
Re:The Doors and Sitar Jun 07, 2004 06:06 p.m.


Hey Lurker,
I used to think it was sitar as well until I started playing sitar and listening to the end. It should have been sitar, it would have been so much cooler. I'll look for the NB recording you mentioned.

Pb


Lurker (Jun 07, 2004 03:31 p.m.):
Did Krieger ever play sitar on any of The Doors recordings? I know he had studied sitar, but I think, at least on the early recordings, where it sounds like sitar is just his superioir guitar playing.

I thought about this while watching the movie "The Doors" the other day, as they segue from the Desert Peyote scene into "The End" at Whiskey-a-Go-Go scene, there seemed to be definite sitar, then it was more like guitar. Perhaps the sitar was just part of the segue.

I saw them in 68 or 69, I don't remember off hand which, but I know there weren't any sitars on stage then, at least not when the Doors were up (this was two days of music, lots of groups, mostly junk like Sonny and Cher, but a few highlights like McCoys and the Standells.)

The reason I thought of this is I'm listening to Nikhilji playing Raga Surdasi Malhar, and during the Alap, I could have sworn I heard him going up the same scale just like Robbie did in The End. Coincidence I'm sure, but it reminded me of the movie, hence the question.


Lars
Re:The Doors and Sitar Jun 07, 2004 10:18 p.m.


Hey Pb,the Nikhil CD is entitled "Total absorption" and was I believe his only digital recording...
I never heard that the doors used a sitar, the mode/scales on 'the end' are very eastern, one of their best songs I think....8)
Lars
tarsi
Re:The Doors and Sitar Jun 08, 2004 11:54 a.m.


"The End" is Gibson SG in dropped tuning with lots of D strings for ringing - so the drone meets some Sitar favs ------- but the words are not exactly like those of the old bandishes ----- "Mother, I want to ...... " Raag Sigmundfreud?
Lurker
Re:The Doors and Sitar Jun 08, 2004 12:55 p.m.



tarsi (Jun 08, 2004 11:54 a.m.):
"The End" is Gibson SG in dropped tuning with lots of D strings for ringing - so the drone meets some Sitar favs ------- but the words are not exactly like those of the old bandishes ----- "Mother, I want to ...... " Raag Sigmundfreud?

More like a retelling of "Oedipus" in song.

pb
Re:The Doors and Sitar Jun 09, 2004 02:42 p.m.


thanks Lars,
I ordered that one last night. I've been looking for it for a while, but no one had stock until fairly recently. I am curious to hear what the quality is like. I have several Ustad parvez cds and the quality seems very good (australasia tour and midnight moon (my favourite)).

Pb


Lars (Jun 07, 2004 10:18 p.m.):
Hey Pb,the Nikhil CD is entitled "Total absorption" and was I believe his only digital recording...
I never heard that the doors used a sitar, the mode/scales on 'the end' are very eastern, one of their best songs I think....8)
Dan
Re:The Doors and Sitar Jun 10, 2004 01:16 a.m.


Hi again sitar friends,

I beleive it was the late Brian Jone from The Roling Stone who played Sitar on their hit song "Paint it Black" in the late 60's.


Dan
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