INDIAN MUSIC FORUM ARCHIVES: Sitar Forum: Shujaat Khan raga deepak

 

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barend
Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 26, 2004 06:23 a.m.


I have heard a recording of Raga Deepak from Shujaat Khan. In this raga he has tuned his 4th string (the one that is normally tuned to Ga or komal Ga) of his VK sitar in komal Re (the root is Sa). This gives a very 'mysterious' drone when he hits the chickaris. This sounds very nice and strange at the same time.
I have heard something similar on a Shahid Parved recording.

My question is: is this common?
I ask this because I am still in doubt of using either this high string or using the low Sa (RS style). I like this mysterious drone but I also like the low notes.

Any comments?

jaym
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 26, 2004 10:27 a.m.


Interesting. Which Parvez recording?
tarsi
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 26, 2004 02:18 p.m.


This way of tuning is common and it is the reason why this forth steel drone string was added. If you use it together with a deep P as third string you have a compromise between the deep and the real ..... But if you want the real deepness, look for a Surbahar.
jaym
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 26, 2004 02:28 p.m.


So is the 'standard' tuning on a VK style Sitar:

1st-Ma
2nd-not used
3rd-Sa
4th-Pa(above Sa)
5th-Sa
6th-Sa

tarsi
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 26, 2004 04:50 p.m.


Jay, this is the 5 string version. With 6 strings, there is another string with the same diameter as the P between that one and the joda S, and it is tuned to M or other important note of the raag; so this one and the P are variable (ex. Malkosh wants both of em as M). More strings, more complications:-).
barend
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 29, 2004 04:39 a.m.



barend (Mar 26, 2004 06:23 a.m.):
I have heard a recording of Raga Deepak from Shujaat Khan. In this raga he has tuned his 4th string (the one that is normally tuned to Ga or komal Ga) of his VK sitar in komal Re (the root is Sa). This gives a very 'mysterious' drone when he hits the chickaris. This sounds very nice and strange at the same time.
I have heard something similar on a Shahid Parvez recording.

My question is: is this common?
I ask this because I am still in doubt of using either this high string or using the low Sa (RS style). I like this mysterious drone but I also like the low notes.

Any comments?


barend
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 30, 2004 03:40 a.m.


jaym, the recordings of Shahid Parvez I am talking about are: Raga Gurjari Todi (from: excellent sound of sitar), here he has tuned his 5th string (normally pa or ma) to Dha.
And Raga Puriya (from enchanting sitar), here he has tuned his 5th string to Komal Dha.
It's not quite the same as Raga Deepak from Shujaat Khan, but it gives the same 'strange' touch to the raga. Although I think tuning to Dha or komal Dha is more common in certain ragas
tarsi
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 30, 2004 09:56 a.m.


Barend, Gujri Tori is another example for flexible tuning: the rag has no P, but d and g as important notes; so forth and fifth string should be g and d ... that sounds richer and less "dissonant" than a P in the drone - despite the fact that P is prominent in the overtones and jawari anyway ......
jaym
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 30, 2004 11:41 a.m.


Barend-Thank you for the info on the Parvez pieces. I have to add those CDs to my collection. Check out his live recording:
Synergy-It is superb

http://www.worldsensemusic.com

tarsi
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 31, 2004 12:27 p.m.


This will be ignored anyway, but I have to correct my last one: it is the third and forth string, not fourth and fifth.
barend
Re:Shujaat Khan raga deepak Mar 31, 2004 03:48 p.m.


You should check out this raga Deepak, it is really beautiful. Shujaat Khan's playing style (especially in the Jor and Jhala part) is very original and new to me.
On april 24th I will go to a concert of him in Amsterdam. I am ver curious!
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