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Remco
Dhrupad-documentary Mar 11, 2004 05:52 p.m.


Hi all,

I've got a question: I've spend several hours watching a great documentary on Dhrupad on the Filmsdivision site: http://www.filmsdivision.org/home.htm
Great to see Ustad Zia Mohiuddin Dagar play. I was wondering if this film was ever released on DVD.

Peace,

Remco

Aanaddha
Re:Dhrupad-documentary Mar 12, 2004 07:31 a.m.


[quote][b]Remco (Mar 11, 2004 05:52 p.m.):

I've got a question: I've spend several hours watching a great documentary on Dhrupad on the Filmsdivision site: http://www.filmsdivision.org/home.htm
Great to see Ustad Zia Mohiuddin Dagar play. I was wondering if this film was ever released on DVD.

Remco,
You're dreaming. Nice dream, though.
Seriously, there must be an unimagineable wealth if films and videos of documentaries, concerts, and mehfils that have rarely seen the light of day much less found their way to commercial VHS, or the internet, not to mention DVD. (Filmsdivision.org and P. Moutal's site are really the only collections that I know of that are currently available to the public.)
Not for a lack of technology, but because I suspect the bollywood industry has the media pretty much in it's control. Or... a lot of people are sitting on their little treasures waiting for an offer to purchase the rights.
Digitala.com - a tabla organization published an amazing rare video of a tabla solo mehfil by the late Ust. Nizamuddin Khan, the proceeds of which were directed to help support the artist's family. It would be nice to see more such endeavors.
BTW - does anyone know of, or has heard anything about the progress/existence of this Nikhil Banerjee documentary by an British person that was supposed to have surfaced from production some years ago?

Aanaddha

kedar_india_pune
Re:Dhrupad-documentary Mar 12, 2004 04:12 p.m.


..Yes there are plenty of doucumentrys made and many many concerts recorded on video tapes ... but the copy rights issue does come in its way.....
but i have heard that radio archival and the film division have come together and are working on a project where they will set up libraries all over for people to view them ....!!!....
and there is also a channel called DOORDARSHAN (BHARATI)... which does show many such concerts ..
and live programmess...
now my freind in usa gets many indain channels there ..
so if anyone can get a subscription to this channel it will really be good cause they really do show some old good concerts.............ask your cable-wallah guy
yours
kedar
Ps: if any one is comming to pune(india) i can share some good videos that i have ..for eg: (jugalbandi between shaid parvez and rashid khan playing des,marwa...shown on dd channel......
bye
aanaddha
Re:Dhrupad-documentary Mar 12, 2004 05:41 p.m.


I wasn't speaking of copyrights per se but now that you mention it I trust that the artist(s) are always made aware of the existence of the recordings made of their work - if only out of respect for their efforts.
What I was refering to are the videos (such as a jugalbhandi with Ust. Shahid Parvez and Ust. Rashid Khan) that exist only in someone's private collection.
The film and DVD industry is obviously not interested in the comparitively small profits made in publishing classical music performances.
My suggestion is that these these documents (depending on the quality) could otherwise be made available commercially with the profits directed to a worthy cause such as towards the support of a deceased artist's family - or to a school or library for wider educational, archival, and research purposes. What purpose is served by hoarding them?
----
I forgot to include also http://www.itcsra.org/ in my short list of collections of performance videos that are available generally to everyone. Their recent archive of concert hall performances is an excellent one and the quality is very good - let's hope they can continue to make these documents available to us.

Aanaddha

Aanaddha
Re:Dhrupad-documentary Mar 13, 2004 07:20 a.m.



K.K. (Mar 12, 2004 07:52 p.m.):
Unfortunately, this is the bottom line. The market for such an obscure product is too small to even recoup the costs of production and distribution, much less create a profit.
That's why they call it the Music and/or Film Industry.

What is the production cost for transfering an existing VHS to DVD or CD-mpeg/quicktime?
As for distribution, well...funny, isn't it how the 'Industry' is the first to complain when people decide to do it themselves?

Aanaddha

K.K.
Re:Dhrupad-documentary Mar 12, 2004 07:52 p.m.



aanaddha (Mar 12, 2004 05:41 p.m.):
...The film and DVD industry is obviously not interested in the comparitively small profits made in publishing classical music performances...

Aanaddha


Unfortunately, this is the bottom line. The market for such an obscure product is too small to even recoup the costs of production and distribution, much less create a profit.
That's why they call it the Music and/or Film Industry.

kedar_india_pune
Re:Dhrupad-documentary Mar 13, 2004 04:11 p.m.


......
Well people in india i mean the radio people ..you guys wount belive the way these old recordings are kept.. all dust and no one take care of it ....
recenty there was a fire were many recording were burnt ... ...... but hopefully things will change now
pandit bhimsen joshi has a institue here where he is planning to have all these really old books, recordings
they already have a huge collection and its comming and filling in from all over the country .....
the radio people are also contrubuting along with the artists themselves ...
hopefully they will be able to take care of the recordings
and hopefully they will be made available to students like us .......
take care
yours
kedar
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