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pb
Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Sep 20, 2003 06:48 p.m.

Hi,
I have a friend going to India soon and I want him to pick up a tabla machine (riyaz master pro) and tanpura machine (raagini digital).

Does anyone know if they are easy to find (for foreignors)? Or can anyone suggest a place where he can buy them?

thanks,
Pb
Estiven
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 08, 2003 09:16 p.m.

Has he tried e-bay? i think if you just look under sitar, you mght find something. (of course who knows if they ship to india)
pb
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 08, 2003 10:35 p.m.

Yes, I've seen the ones on ebay. I have a friend going to India so why not get them there and for a much better price? I would love to get a sitar there, but my friend doesn't know anything about ICM.

Pb
Remco_Helbers
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 09, 2003 06:07 a.m.

If you decide to buy a machine in India, take a look if the machine has the right voltage.

Peace,

Remco
pb
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 09, 2003 08:50 a.m.

Yes, voltage is important! I'll make sure to tell my friend.
Prabhu
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 09, 2003 10:38 a.m.

You can get them redily at DMS. You will get a fair price and be able to check it out before you pay. A lot of these units arrive damaged when they are shipped by Ebay people who don't properly pack them. They have very heavy transformers inside - that break lose from their mounts if they receive too hard a jolt. Power is not a concern! All the Riaaz and Raagini units have dual power imputs. If you're in Delhi - you can contact Inni via his site: http://www.indianmusicalinstruments.com/
pb
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 09, 2003 03:48 p.m.

Thanks for info guys (Prabu, KK). I forwarded it to my friend. Good to hear that the voltage is not an issue, just the cord, which should be easy enough to find. Trying them out before buying is a nice thing!

Pb
Beenkarji
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 10, 2003 03:28 a.m.

I also agree about the transformers in the Riyaaz, and Raagini models. I bought a broken tabla machine off ebay, and that was the exact problem, besides the really poor quality soldering, and substandard parts. My solution, I added all military grade parts, and re did the circuit board, so now I have an additional pot that focuses on tone, and also it can go about a 4th lower, and a 4th higher. I also addes a larger 1/4" phono jack, and the option for stereo sound. Its funny what building theremin from a kit will teach you about the world of electronics.
Beenkar Ted Ceplina
Jeff
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 10, 2003 09:51 a.m.

Beenkarji (Oct 10, 2003 03:28 a.m.):
I also agree about the transformers in the Riyaaz, and Raagini models. I bought a broken tabla machine off ebay, and that was the exact problem, besides the really poor quality soldering, and substandard parts. My solution, I added all military grade parts, and re did the circuit board, so now I have an additional pot that focuses on tone, and also it can go about a 4th lower, and a 4th higher. I also addes a larger 1/4" phono jack, and the option for stereo sound. Its funny what building theremin from a kit will teach you about the world of electronics.

Man 'O man! I cant keep my mouth shut about this!
Ted!,,,, if that is your real name, now' you've rebuilt a tabla machine! Thats amazing! Someone here mentions something about certain problems with these things then Lo' and Behold you have ran across this same problem and solved it with your masterful intellect and your supposed limitless abilities on "EveryThing"
And on top of that you built a theremin for the >HELL< of it!
Man, Ted you've done it all. Have you been to the moon yet? What about an undercover CIA agent? Most of "you" types are usually some sort of secret agent man with some kind of secret mission!

How have you done all this Ted?
Sitar player!
Master Veena player!
Sarangi player!
Accordion player!
Bagpipes!
All the other crap in your profile that you play!
Sitar repair!
Rebuilding sitars!
Designing new and wonerful indian type instrument!
Veena repair!
Sitar collection!
Veena collection!
Accordion collection!, 12 I think it is!
Electronic genious!
Spiritual adviser!
Moral vanguard!
And from I've heard, your a fashion plate!

Yes,,,, You've done it all Ted.
Now,, I'm either jealous or your up to your eyebrows in BullShit. And I'm not the jealous type!

Seems to me you suffer from low self esteem and some sort of dementia maybe.

I only play four different instruments and cant find enough time to practice them all.
Yet alone enough time to master one of them.

Well thats it or now "Toppy" Ted.
And unlike uncle Ken, I'm challenging you here on this forum instead of privatly.

If I miss anything let me know.

Thanks!

Jeffrey R King
Billy
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 09:27 a.m.

I built my first theremin when I was around 13 years old, not from a kit, but from plans in "Popular Electronics." Not a bad instrument, but I didn't like the volume controlling. Got an Honorable Mention at my Junior High Science Fair.

That year I also built my first Ham Radio transmitter from plans. I had already built one from a Heathkit a year or two before (I got my first Novice-class License when I was 12.).

Most electronic kits are very simple; even at a young age I had a basic electronics background I learned from my father, but even if I didn't, I could probably have built the Heathkit with little or no problem. The main thing you had to learn to do well was to solder connections; the rest was just following step-by-step instructions, like building a model car kit.

Replacing parts with higher grade parts in electronic ciruits isn't that hard, if there are replaceable parts (so much of electronics these days are all in one IC-chip.)

I suspect that the various ICM "machines" use very basic circuitry, especially in the power supply, and could be fairly easily replaced with some basic knowledge and a little forethought (like making larger parts fit on the ciruit-board where the original part was.).

I'm not defending anyone, just adding a perspective that at least the one claim is quite possible.

By the way, an interesting Theremin kit at a reasonable price can be found at: http://www.paia.com/theremax.htm

I've been thinking about getting one of these myself.

Namaste',
Billy Godfrey
j.
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 01:07 p.m.

I think Jeff is jealous
Beenkarji
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 02:37 p.m.

Yeah, the PAiA Theremax is the kit that I built, and it is extremely simple, plus my dad is good with electronics, so of course he helped a bit too. I actually am suprized with all these inovations in Hindustani music, nobody has chose theremin as an instrument. It really can sound like the human voice, especially Clara Rockmores custom one by Lev Termin himself, perhaps you can call it the "Mullick" of the theremin. Yeah, about tabla machines, if anyone has the guts and wants to void out the silly guarentee and open theirs up, look inside and see how poor the parts are. I figured to myself since I had the broken tabla machine, might as well make it a little bit nicer so it would last longer.
Beenkar Ted Ceplina
Billy
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 03:52 p.m.

Beenkarji (Oct 13, 2003 02:37 p.m.):
Yeah, the PAiA Theremax is the kit that I built.

A far cry from the one I built. By they way, my older brother also built one from an earlier PopElect, his was a simple tube one, while mine was solid-state (transistors.) His sounded so much better than mine, but that was probably due to the state of gated transistors back then.

You're right about the ICM possibilities. .anything that has continuous tone ranges can be useful. But man, if hitting the note, and especially microtones right on is hard in a meend, it must be really hard with a theremin!

Tell me about the "external filters" it advertises the Theremax can use. This sounds very interesting.

Namaste',
Billy Godfrey
Beenkarji
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 04:52 p.m.

I will have to read up on the external filters thing. I assume they are just reffering to the fact that if you touch either the volume or the pitch circuit directly, that is will not make that annoying chirping sound. The Theremax is pretty good as far as effects possibilities, but I have to run it through a tube preamp to get the tone I am looking for.
Beenkar Ted Ceplina
prabhu
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 06:10 p.m.

You can buy the plug adaptor for about a buck and a half at any Radio shack. No problemo!
Prabhu
Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 06:14 p.m.

Oh yes BTW --- the Raagini comes with a cord, Just look in the bag to make sure it's in there. There's also a little booklet in the sidepocket of the new ones. 99% of folk who buy them never bother to look there and miss it altogether.
Prabhu
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 06:18 p.m.

Oops! got lost in the thread. Got confused by the battery thing. The Riaaz Master tabla machine doesn't work on batteries - unless they've changed it very recently. The Raagini does.
Prabhu
Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 06:18 p.m.

Oh yes BTW --- the Raagini comes with a cord, Just look in the bag to make sure it's in there. There's also a little booklet in the sidepocket of the new ones. 99% of folk who buy them never bother to look there and miss it altogether.
prabhu
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 13, 2003 06:19 p.m.

You can buy the plug adaptor for about a buck and a half at any Radio shack. No problemo!
pb
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 14, 2003 09:43 a.m.

Mr Inni Sign emailed me with some prices, so hopefully my friend will find his shop. I look forward to a nice tanpura to tune up to, and a tabla machine to play with.

thanks,
Pb
Jeff
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 14, 2003 10:39 a.m.

Now these tabla machines, are they like other drum machines? Can you program beat "changes/patterns" on them, like a Boss DR 550 or a Yamaha RY9 drum machine. Or do they just play a repetitive pattern? In other words can you program a whole Raag or whatever into it or it just plays certain parts?
I've seen a few ICM concerts but I've never seen anyone use one of these tabla machines but I've seen the tanpura machine used many times.
Jeffrey R King
kalyan
Re:Where in Dehli or Calcutta can one buy tabla machines? Oct 14, 2003 03:39 p.m.

The riaz master is not programable it will just play teka for you in about 24 different taals, I dont think they are much good for live preformance or recording. But they are great pactice tools. The taalamala digi 60s is programable in that you can create your own cycle but you can not put sequences together or have it play fills. The avantage is you can play for instance an 11and a half beat taal if your into that sort of thing.
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