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Neal
Riyaz Machine Mar 02, 2003 09:22 p.m.


Is there anyone who knows how to slow down the tal beyond the tempo knob. IOW- If you turn the tempo all the way down it is fairly slow-but can you slow it down even more with the dec./inc. button.

I seem to be able to accomplish that with the dec. button by way of the machine adding in variant drum beats between the (dha-dhin-dhin-dha)that in essence slow down or more accurately expand the time/ space between dha-dhin-dhin-dha . Help!!!

Lars
Re:Riyaz Machine Mar 02, 2003 11:08 p.m.


Neal.......that tintal beat is drut (fast) or even ati-drut (very fast) tempo, the slowest you'll get is with the tempo knob. If you are practicing a vilambit gat then just press the 'Dec' button 3 times, then 'inc' to go to madya, then 'inc' to go to drut, and so on.......there's no way to program the fast tempo to go slower than what the knob is set at unless you want to open the machine up. If you know anyone who's familiar with basic analog controls they could adjust it I'm sure. You could take it to a synthesizer/keyboard repair shop, there's a good music store over by Berklee School of Music in Boston that could do it (forget their name though)........
Neal
Re:Riyaz Machine Mar 03, 2003 10:08 a.m.


Lars, Thank You, Neal



Lars (Mar 02, 2003 11:08 p.m.):
Neal.......that tintal beat is drut (fast) or even ati-drut (very fast) tempo, the slowest you'll get is with the tempo knob. If you are practicing a vilambit gat then just press the 'Dec' button 3 times, then 'inc' to go to madya, then 'inc' to go to drut, and so on.......there's no way to program the fast tempo to go slower than what the knob is set at unless you want to open the machine up. If you know anyone who's familiar with basic analog controls they could adjust it I'm sure. You could take it to a synthesizer/keyboard repair shop, there's a good music store over by Berklee School of Music in Boston that could do it (forget their name though)........
Neal
Re:Riyaz Machine Mar 03, 2003 05:55 p.m.


Lars, You start at drut gat. When you 'dec' 3 times- what does that bring you to?

Then with 1 'inc'- that brings you to madya-which means/is what?.

Then with another 'inc'- what does that bring you to?

Then with 1 more increase I assume your back at drut gat.

Is there some rhyme or reason to the sounds/beats that I hear interspersed between (dhin and dha) as we do this?

I don't know anything about all this, so go easy on me...Neal


Neal.......that tintal beat is drut (fast) or even ati-drut (very fast) tempo, the slowest you'll get is with the tempo knob. If you are practicing a vilambit gat then just press the 'Dec' button 3 times, then 'inc' to go to madya, then 'inc' to go to drut, and so on.......there's no way to program the fast tempo to go slower than what the knob is set at unless you want to open the machine up. If you know anyone who's familiar with basic analog controls they could adjust it I'm sure. You could take it to a synthesizer/keyboard repair shop, there's a good music store over by Berklee School of Music in Boston that could do it (forget their name though)........[/quote][/quote]

Lars
Re:Riyaz Machine Mar 03, 2003 08:32 p.m.


Neal,
Well, from what I know the slowest one from pressing the 'dec' 3 times is vilambit, madhya (like a medium speed) would be next, then 'drut' (fast) and then 'ati drut' (very fast) which is the speed you were inquiring about. A lot of the gats I practice follow these beat patterns very well...
But (I think?) if you were to adjust the tempo slower, the same pattern could be called (ati vilambit/vilambit/madhya/drut) instead.....someone correct me if I'm incorrect....
Not sure what you mean about the sounds between dhin and dha?

Lars

Neal
Re:Riyaz Machine Mar 03, 2003 08:44 p.m.


Lars, Thanks. I will get more info from my teacher on Wednesday...

Neal,
Well, from what I know the slowest one from pressing the 'dec' 3 times is vilambit, madhya (like a medium speed) would be next, then 'drut' (fast) and then 'ati drut' (very fast) which is the speed you were inquiring about. A lot of the gats I practice follow these beat patterns very well...
But (I think?) if you were to adjust the tempo slower, the same pattern could be called (ati vilambit/vilambit/madhya/drut) instead.....someone correct me if I'm incorrect....
Not sure what you mean about the sounds between dhin and dha?

Lars[/quote]

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