INDIAN MUSIC FORUM ARCHIVES: Tabla Forum: tuning the bayan

 

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zitoun
tuning the bayan May 25, 2004 05:53 a.m.


Hi,
my dayan seems too tight: how can i loose it?
There is no gatta and the tasma is still tight, stick around the shell.
Thx for your tips and advice.

Zitoun

Aanaddha
Re:tuning the bayan May 25, 2004 07:11 a.m.


Dear Zitoun,
Play it a whole lot with a lot of action and force. That will be better for both the bayan and your baya technique. I personally prefer for new baya's not to have gatta - as it will loosen more gradually over time and thus more evenly over all. Don't worry, it will loosen and you'll have a better bayan than if you loosened it now and had to pull it back up later as you surely will.

my humble opinion,
A.
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scodoha
Re:tuning the bayan May 25, 2004 06:07 p.m.


Stretch. Heat. Pressure. Time.
Put some sticks in under every strap, play like that for awhile, subject it to heat, sun through the windows, play and push on the edges, repeat.
Stretch. Heat. Pressure. Time.
aanaddha
Re:tuning the bayan May 25, 2004 06:24 p.m.



scodoha (May 25, 2004 06:07 p.m.):
Stretch. Heat. Pressure. Time.
Put some sticks in under every strap, play like that for awhile, subject it to heat, sun through the windows, play and push on the edges, repeat.
Stretch. Heat. Pressure. Time.

Dear Scodoha,
Sorry to disagree, but I don't think it's wise advise to subject any musical instrument to abnormal temperature or sunlight.

Aanaddha

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Keshav Das
Re:tuning the bayan May 26, 2004 09:44 a.m.


"I don't think it's wise advise to subject any musical instrument to abnormal temperature or sunlight"
For what it's worth - that's exactly what we tell all our customers. Siar Haseq our technician has been reheading tablas for 25 years. Breaking in the puri old school style - is still the way to go.
Cheers,
KD
Ram
Re:tuning the bayan May 26, 2004 11:22 a.m.


This is a technique I would not recommend for beginners as it requires a lot of trial and patience .

This should only be done when it is absolutely essential and as a last resort.

Place the padded cover on top of the pudie (head) or even a dry towel with 2-4 folds. Then with your bayan hand with fingers spread wide open smartly smack on top of the padded cover with the palm and fingers together. Remove the cover/towel and test.

Repeat if necessary with just a slightly harder smack

I agree with the previous comment that it is best adjusted playing in the head with rigourous Bayan pressure techniques

rod
Re:tuning the bayan May 26, 2004 12:22 p.m.


I bought this bayan skin four years ago and replaced an not so good sound producing skin I had on my bayan then. I then found that the sound wasn't as deep as I wanted or just too tight it was (or perhaps as I was very much a rookie then, I just couldn't produce a deeper sound). I then left the bayan in one corner for around a year. One day I started playing the same bayan when I was in dire need of a new bayan. With a lot more power in my arm, I found it easier to play and can tell you this: The sound just gets better and better. Really beautiful sound! NO heat!! NO streaching!! Just lots of the good old plain playing!!

But there is other important thing to consider. The quality of the skin is important!! This skin I bought was just very good. I was very lucky to find that skin (... in London by the way). I have other bayan just as old but with a nowhere near skin quality which, no matter how much I play, I ust can't make that deep gut churning, chest pressing sweet bass sound.

Aanaddha
Re:tuning the bayan May 26, 2004 01:58 p.m.


[quote]rod (May 26, 2004 12:22 p.m.):
I bought this bayan skin four years ago and replaced an not so good sound producing skin I had on my bayan then. I then found that the sound wasn't as deep as I wanted or just too tight it was (or perhaps as I was very much a rookie then, I just couldn't produce a deeper sound). I then left the bayan in one corner for around a year. One day I started playing the same bayan when I was in dire need of a new bayan. With a lot more power in my arm, I found it easier to play and can tell you this: The sound just gets better and better. Really beautiful sound! NO heat!! NO streaching!! Just lots of the good old plain playing!!


Rod,
It'd kinda like when someone good picks sits down and plays with one of your tablas and you say to yourself, "how does he do that? It doesn't sound that good when I play it?!" Baya skins are really hard to judge when they're new and it takes a lot of experience to pick a good one. Especially the heavy Bombay/Pune skins - they really do take a lot of riyaaz to start sounding sweet - no shortcuts here. Good reason to treat your tablas with long-lasting care. When you find a good one you can't imagine playing anything else.

A.

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scodoha
Re:tuning the bayan May 26, 2004 04:30 p.m.


Abnormal? Did I say abnormal? What is abnormal?
You're not speaking from experience are you? I mean you tried what I suggested with disastarous results?
aanaddha
Re:tuning the bayan May 26, 2004 11:59 p.m.


I can easily speak from experience. I have two dahina lakadi's/shells that I use to store my tools that are both cracked wide-open like an eggshell on one side, top to bottom from exposure to an unshaded window and direct sunlight. Both the skin and straps and the sayhi/gob on dahina's and bayan's are also highly susceptible to damage in an enviroment other than average room temperature and humidity. (Excess humidity and excess dryness are both a by-product of "heat".) I also know this from experience.

Aanaddha


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