INDIAN MUSIC FORUM ARCHIVES: Tabla Forum: Fast Double "Na"

 

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Roopak
Fast Double "Na" Dec 02, 2003 04:50 p.m.


I have heard and seen players play "Na" two times in succession very fast. It sounds like being played with two different fingers one after the other.

For example:
Dha Dhin Dhin Na-Na
...

I was told that both "Na"s have to be played with the index finger on the Tabla.

Is that true ? If so, are there any tricks to playing "Na" with the same finger two times with a minute gap in them ?

Thanks !

krasp
Re:Fast Double "Na" Dec 02, 2003 05:56 p.m.


It's true
The only trick is practice again and again. Practice slowly and clearly ge na na na, for instance .
I can think of a sort of trick anyway : instead of playing na na na na at very high speed , you can play nanakena.
It's more like another bol though.

I hope this helps.
The answer to the many questions of the tabla student is "Go and practice".
I have to leave my keyboard and practice Bye

Shawn
Re:Fast Double "Na" Dec 03, 2003 09:47 a.m.


Hi,

It's definitely real, and it's definitely a result of practice. I would reccomend practicing this variation of Tintal:

Dha- Dhin- Dhin- DhaNa
Dha- Dhin- Dhin- DhaNa
Dha- Tin- Tin- NaNa
Na- Dhin- Dhin- DhaNa

Hope it helps...

Take care,


Shawn
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Vivek
Re:Fast Double "Na" Dec 07, 2003 02:15 a.m.


definitely hit both with the index... and try to maintain clarity for both
another tintal practice bol for this technique is
-Dha -Dhin -Dhin -Dha na ge na
-Dha -Dhin -Dhin -Dha na ge na
-Dha -tin -tin -ta na ke na
-Dha -Dhin -Dhin -Dha na ge na
or, in kaherwa
-Dhin kenana Dhin Dhin na
-Dhin kenana tin tin na

in this instance the double na should be played with a kind of whipping motion, using the momentum gained the "ke" on the bayan

David
Re:Fast Double "Na" Dec 08, 2003 01:14 a.m.


I normally don't like to jump into discussions because I found that whatever I have to say, usually someone else will eventually say it. However, I thought that I would jump in here.

The trick to playing double Na is to use different sets of muscles. I am not able to tell you what the muscles are, but you will know in your practice that if you feel you are using the same muscles for both Nas, then you are practicing wrong.

Good luck

David Courtney

KrsnaDas
Re:Fast Double "Na" Dec 23, 2003 03:15 p.m.


>I have heard and seen players play "Na" two times in >succession very fast. It sounds like being played with >two different fingers one after the other.

Yes, the "na-na" that you hear is very different than the "na","na" at a slower pace. To answer your question, when playing faster, and desiring to play, "na-na", you whip your wrist (just slightly) to produce the double "na"...as opposed to using the muscles in your finger when you want to play the notes individually. I hope this helps...

Roopak
Re:Fast Double "Na" Dec 23, 2003 05:35 p.m.


Thanks for all the replies. I guess it is time to practice "na-na" using all the tips above.
aanaddha
Re:Fast Double "Na" Dec 23, 2003 11:25 p.m.


Go to:
http://www.purplecoral.com/audio/tablabols/

Type: GHEGHE,NANA,TETE,NAGHE,GHENA in the empty box for 625 practice variations.

Or any other bols separated by commas as above.

A.

Soccerismyblood
Re:Fast Double "Na" Feb 26, 2004 08:34 p.m.


yeah man, also with the tere kete really fast, it sounds liek a waterfall, how do all the tabla players play it so fast, i dont understand
Jake
Re:Fast Double "Na" Feb 27, 2004 09:14 a.m.


Double Nas are unbelievably performed by Nizamuddin in his Tabla solo performance video. It's such an effective bol combination, if one is able to perform them in relas or fixed compositions. Once again; those of you who don't have that video, buy it. It's unbelievable!
Susi
Re:Fast Double "Na" Feb 27, 2004 10:29 a.m.


I've heard Tari is known for his double "Na"
scodoha
Re:Fast Double "Na" Feb 27, 2004 01:51 p.m.


There's also a way to get a similar sound for the second na by using a little more force than is used for a ne with the third finger but tapping on the kinar, sort of a lopsided tun.
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