INDIAN MUSIC FORUM ARCHIVES: Tabla Forum: dhi? dhii? dhin? ...bah

 

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Devi
dhi? dhii? dhin? ...bah Mar 06, 2003 10:41 a.m.


In the phrase dhinagena, what is the dhi? Is it dhin or is it the khula form of the ti in tita?
Same question for dhi ne naga (I'm guessing it's the same answer, too).
Same question for ti in dhatidhage

Also, since there are so many ways to spell tun for example, is any given spelling "incorrect" in any given situation? My devanagari font doesn't give me that dot to make tu tun; if I just write "tu" everywhere, will someone say I've got it wrong?


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taklu
Re:dhi? dhii? dhin? ...bah Mar 10, 2003 10:46 a.m.


Well, I could be wrong, but it the way I was taught. DHI is played the same as dhin except the right hand index finger is muted so as to give a dampening tone, whereas Dhin is a resonating version. Good Luck
Jo´┐Żlle
Re:dhi? dhii? dhin? ...bah May 29, 2003 12:10 p.m.


The dhi is not the dhin which is played on the Sour. Dhi is a tu with a ge.
Same reply for the dhi ne naga (dhi is the opened sound tu with a ge and the ne a closed sound played with two fingers on the shayee).
Good practice !
alien
Re:dhi? dhii? dhin? ...bah May 29, 2003 03:19 p.m.


Dha ti dha ge (where ti is tit or tet in fact): middle finger, dampened, not too strong, not in the center but off center, at the place where your hand is situated normally. Endurance.
tunakwah
Re:dhi? dhii? dhin? ...bah Jun 02, 2003 10:11 a.m.



Devi (Mar 06, 2003 10:45 a.m.):
In the phrase dhinagena, what is the dhi? Is it dhin or is it the khula form of the ti in tita?
Same question for dhi ne naga (I'm guessing it's the same answer, too).
Same question for ti in dhatidhage

Also, since there are so many ways to spell tun for example, is any given spelling "incorrect" in any given situation? My devanagari font doesn't give me that dot to make tu tun; if I just write "tu" everywhere, will someone say I've got it wrong?


Hi Devi,

In Farukhabad style the following bols are played like this:

Dhinegena - (in rela - consists of )
- Dhi (like tu - open sound)
- ne (like te from tirekite - closed 3 fingers on gab
- ge (from ge on the bayyan)
- ne (again like te from tirekite - closed

Dhine nage - (unless played in kaida)
- Dhine (Dhi + ne - see above)
- na (from tin - open on sur)
- ge (from ge on bayyan)

Dhatidhage (as played in kaida)
- ti (from tit on center gab)

Same bols can differ from position depending on composition (kaida, rela or padan). Remember, there is no strict rule where to play what. When we compose bols we first think of a sound pattern and later on we attach the spoken language or even script.

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