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Gandara
DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 04, 2003 02:41 p.m.


Please, in what manner is possible play tintal teka very fast.
I play DHA, DHIN, DHIN, DHA, always but is very difficult in high velocity.
Thanks friends.
Warren
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 06, 2003 12:09 a.m.


Oh your talking about what Zakir refers to as faka theka
There are quite a few.
|dha te te dha| dha te te dha|dha te te ta|ta te te dha|
which is usually a backward tete
or using
|dha te tin dha|dha te tin dha| dha te tin ta| ta te tin dha| or dha - tin dha or for a real fast cheat use
|na ge ge ne|na ge ge ne|na ke ke ne|na ge ge ne|


Gandara (Jan 04, 2003 02:41 p.m.):
Please, in what manner is possible play tintal teka very fast.
I play DHA, DHIN, DHIN, DHA, always but is very difficult in high velocity.
Thanks friends.
Shawn
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 06, 2003 10:27 a.m.


Hi,

I think when Warren wrote "Dha Te Te Dha", it's really "Dha Dhe Dhe Dha", ie: the baya continues to play ... so then:

Dha Dhe Dhe Dha
Dha Dhe Dhe Dha
Dha Te Te Ta
Ta Dhe Dhe Dha

(not very easy to say, but easy to play)

I used to play the TeTe 2-1 (dilli style), but now I do it 1-2 (purbi style).

There's also this nice Benares variant:

Dhe Dhe Dha Dha
Dhe Dhe Dha Dha
Dhe Te Ta Ta
Te Dhe Dha Dha

Again 1-2, purbi style for the TeTe.

And then, this other Benares variant:

Dha Dhin Dha Dha
Dha Dhin Dha Dha
Dha Tin Ta Ta
Ta Dhin Dha Dha

(Dhin = Ge + Tun in this case)

This is a real workout, since everything is played with the same finger on the right hand. But it's lots of fun, and sounds great in climactic moments.

Enjoy!


Shawn
http://www.percussionist.net
Warren
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 06, 2003 10:46 a.m.


Thanks shawn you're right baya plays through just as you have written .
Except for nagegene but I only use that for ballistic speed


Shawn (Jan 06, 2003 10:27 a.m.):
Hi,

I think when Warren wrote "Dha Te Te Dha", it's really "Dha Dhe Dhe Dha", ie: the baya continues to play ... so then:

Dha Dhe Dhe Dha
Dha Dhe Dhe Dha
Dha Te Te Ta
Ta Dhe Dhe Dha

(not very easy to say, but easy to play)

I used to play the TeTe 2-1 (dilli style), but now I do it 1-2 (purbi style).

There's also this nice Benares variant:

Dhe Dhe Dha Dha
Dhe Dhe Dha Dha
Dhe Te Ta Ta
Te Dhe Dha Dha

Again 1-2, purbi style for the TeTe.

And then, this other Benares variant:

Dha Dhin Dha Dha
Dha Dhin Dha Dha
Dha Tin Ta Ta
Ta Dhin Dha Dha

(Dhin = Ge + Tun in this case)

This is a real workout, since everything is played with the same finger on the right hand. But it's lots of fun, and sounds great in climactic moments.

Enjoy!


Pete
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 06, 2003 10:57 a.m.


Shawn:
Excuse my ignorance, but is Dhe same as Dhin?
Patel
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 06, 2003 11:46 a.m.



Gandara (Jan 04, 2003 02:41 p.m.):
Please, in what manner is possible play tintal teka very fast.
I play DHA, DHIN, DHIN, DHA, always but is very difficult in high velocity.
Thanks friends.

Hi playing dhategena is also really handay.

you can play like
dhategena dhategena tatekena dhategena

jillee
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 06, 2003 03:40 p.m.


I got this from the fundamantals of tabla by Dr. David Courtney:

on the dayan play: na ti ta na, na ti ta na, na ti ta na, na ti ta na.
on the bayan play: ge ge ge ge, ge ge ge ge, ge - - -
- ge ge ge.

U can modulate the ge's accordingly.

thanx

Shawn
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 06, 2003 09:07 p.m.



Pete (Jan 06, 2003 10:57 a.m.):
Shawn:
Excuse my ignorance, but is Dhe same as Dhin?

Hi,

Dhe is Te + Ge.


Shawn
http://www.percussionist.net
Gandara
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Jan 09, 2003 01:46 a.m.


Thanks, Warren, Shawn, Patel and Jillee for your estimable help.
I think, dhategena is a great recourse, and nagegene is very good to burn megtronome, in combimation with nagekege.
Devi42
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Feb 16, 2003 02:15 p.m.


Er... I don't get it...
What part of Dha Dhin Dhin Dha is hard at high speed that gets easier with Dha Dhe Dhe Dha? (me <== new player)
Seems to me that Dhin is about as close to Dha as you can get in terms of hand position - wouldn't it be harder to have to move your hand more to get to Dhe? Seems to me like the left hand would limit you (with very fast repetitive Ga's unless you weren't modulating them at all) than your right hand.
Also... exactly how fast are we talking here? More than 300 beats/min?
Warren
Re:DRUT TINTAL TEKA Feb 17, 2003 11:39 p.m.


Ya Dev, were talkin way fast , the last part of the rag.(bout 8 beat per second) dhe replaces the dhin so your not playing all 4 notes with the same finger

Devi42 (Feb 16, 2003 02:15 p.m.):
Er... I don't get it...
What part of Dha Dhin Dhin Dha is hard at high speed that gets easier with Dha Dhe Dhe Dha? (me <== new player)
Seems to me that Dhin is about as close to Dha as you can get in terms of hand position - wouldn't it be harder to have to move your hand more to get to Dhe? Seems to me like the left hand would limit you (with very fast repetitive Ga's unless you weren't modulating them at all) than your right hand.
Also... exactly how fast are we talking here? More than 300 beats/min?
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