INDIAN MUSIC FORUM ARCHIVES: Tabla Forum: Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com

 

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Pete
Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Dec 31, 2002 04:20 p.m.


Hi Fellow Tablalovers:

The dovesong.com is indeed a rich source for tabla solos. Since selecting an MP3 item from this page starts downloading it to a temporary internet file (without giving you a chance to specify a folder on your hard disk), this is what I do to save it to my hard disk:

1. I start downloading the desired file from the internet.
2. While downloading is in progress, I set up Goldwave for recording.
3. As soon as downloading is complete and the audio starts playing, I click the record button on Goldwave.

The results are good, but it is time-intensive. How do you guys do it? Is there an easier way to to transfer the MP3 file directly to your hard disk?

Thank you for any input you may have.

Swara
Re:Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Jan 01, 2003 07:34 a.m.


I do not understand,Pete. When I select an MP3 and want to transfer it to my hard disc,I just click on "saving as..." and then I have the choice to put it in any folder I want.
bill
Re:Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Jan 01, 2003 09:54 a.m.


I thought it was curious that the Ustad Alla Rakha segment of the Gottlieb collection was neatly excluded from 'Mr. Dovesong's list of important Indian percussion artists (as is Zakir Hussain). Further investigation reveals that 'Dovesong' also has a problem with Ravi Shankar (whose music is also excluded from anywhere on this site). Is it common to students of Ali Akbar Khan to be prone to such a blatant discrimanations?
Bill
Pete
Re:Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Jan 01, 2003 11:32 a.m.


Thanks Swara!

Immediately after posting my message, I realized that the file was actually being saved to an obscure folder. Also using your hint, I right clicked on my choice of the file (instead of left click which is what I normaly do), and was able to choose "save target as". Who says "Ignorance is a bliss"?

I still have to use my Goldwave approach to download anything from www.iris.dti.ne.jp/~takipony/INDIA/TABLA/LESSON. Choosing "save target as" saves the picture on the screen. Actually, it was this experience that led me to use Goldwave for the dovesong site without checking. Any thoughts?

A Happy New Tabla Year to you all, Tabla-lovers!

Shawn
Re:Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Jan 01, 2003 12:52 p.m.



bill (Jan 01, 2003 09:54 a.m.):
I thought it was curious that the Ustad Alla Rakha segment of the Gottlieb collection was neatly excluded from 'Mr. Dovesong's list of important Indian percussion artists (as is Zakir Hussain). Further investigation reveals that 'Dovesong' also has a problem with Ravi Shankar (whose music is also excluded from anywhere on this site). Is it common to students of Ali Akbar Khan to be prone to such a blatant discrimanations?
Bill

I find this comment a little strange, and aggressive. The ommission probably has to do with copyright issues.

But if not, the site owner still has the right of personal choice / personal preference if he so desires.

Also, in general, recordings of Ustad Alla Rakha and Pandit Ravi Shankar are very easy to find.


Shawn
http://www.percussionist.net
Bill
Re:Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Jan 01, 2003 01:58 p.m.



Shawn (Jan 01, 2003 12:52 p.m.):

bill (Jan 01, 2003 09:54 a.m.):
I thought it was curious that the Ustad Alla Rakha segment of the Gottlieb collection was neatly excluded from 'Mr. Dovesong's list of important Indian percussion artists (as is Zakir Hussain). Further investigation reveals that 'Dovesong' also has a problem with Ravi Shankar (whose music is also excluded from anywhere on this site). Is it common to students of Ali Akbar Khan to be prone to such a blatant discrimanations?
Bill

I find this comment a little strange, and aggressive. The ommission probably has to do with copyright issues.

But if not, the site owner still has the right of personal choice / personal preference if he so desires.

Also, in general, recordings of Ustad Alla Rakha and Pandit Ravi Shankar are very easy to find.


Shawn,
With all due respect, my concern is that Don Robertson's Dovesong site is not simply doing everyone a great favor by simply posting hard-to-find musical clips, but, is in fact promoting his personal, and to my mind, objectionable theories of "positive and negative" music. The unmistakable exclusion of Allah Rakha, Ravi Shankar, and Zakir Hussain herein would lead me to believe that by Robertson's assessment these three great musicians do not comprise a significant "positive" musical element.
I have looked into Don Robertson's background and he freely admits to both the influence of Ali Akbar Khan and to his personal feelings towards the Ravi Shankar circle of musicians. This makes me wonder what other personal, political, and religious biases Robertson is prone to in his theories of music.
As to the copyright issue it is my belief that all of the Gottlieb material is still under copyright to Robert Gottlieb. If , in fact, Robertson is legally free to post segments of the Gottlieb tapes in their entireity, why would he exclude only the Alla Rakha segment? I believe the reason has more to do with personal censorship than with personal preference or copyright.
Sincerely,
Bill

Warren
Re:Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Jan 01, 2003 03:31 p.m.


Oh I'm sorry for the extra work . Instead of left clicking as you normally do Right click on the file and a save as will come up which will allow you to save the file

Pete (Dec 31, 2002 04:20 p.m.):
Hi Fellow Tablalovers:

The dovesong.com is indeed a rich source for tabla solos. Since selecting an MP3 item from this page starts downloading it to a temporary internet file (without giving you a chance to specify a folder on your hard disk), this is what I do to save it to my hard disk:

1. I start downloading the desired file from the internet.
2. While downloading is in progress, I set up Goldwave for recording.
3. As soon as downloading is complete and the audio starts playing, I click the record button on Goldwave.

The results are good, but it is time-intensive. How do you guys do it? Is there an easier way to to transfer the MP3 file directly to your hard disk?

Thank you for any input you may have.


Shawn
Re:Downloading MP3 Files from dovesong.com Jan 02, 2003 12:15 a.m.



Bill (Jan 01, 2003 01:58 p.m.):
Shawn,
With all due respect, my concern is that Don Robertson's Dovesong site is not simply doing everyone a great favor by simply posting hard-to-find musical clips, but, is in fact promoting his personal, and to my mind, objectionable theories of "positive and negative" music. The unmistakable exclusion of Allah Rakha, Ravi Shankar, and Zakir Hussain herein would lead me to believe that by Robertson's assessment these three great musicians do not comprise a significant "positive" musical element.
I have looked into Don Robertson's background and he freely admits to both the influence of Ali Akbar Khan and to his personal feelings towards the Ravi Shankar circle of musicians. This makes me wonder what other personal, political, and religious biases Robertson is prone to in his theories of music.
As to the copyright issue it is my belief that all of the Gottlieb material is still under copyright to Robert Gottlieb. If , in fact, Robertson is legally free to post segments of the Gottlieb tapes in their entireity, why would he exclude only the Alla Rakha segment? I believe the reason has more to do with personal censorship than with personal preference or copyright.
Sincerely,
Bill

Hi,

I didn't look into this in as much detail as you. Would you be able to post links to the info pages where you find this anti-Ravi Shankar sentiment? I find this to be very bizarre...

About the copyright issues, I was actually surprised to find all that music available online, and so openly. I just took it for granted that if the material is no longer being sold, then it might be alright to distribute it online ... though they may not be on solid legal ground... I really don't know.

About the positive music/negative music propaganda... I don't really agree with the philosophy being presented. However, as an educational resource, the music on the site, even if incomplete, is still a great resource.


Shawn
http://www.percussionist.net
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