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Vish
Anyone know any kehrwar and dadra duggans or any good duggans that you could possibly play in bhajans? Dec 23, 2002 07:40 a.m.


I am looking for some duggans that i could play in Bhajhans, as i am finding it hard to make them up and i need some serious HELP!!
Warren
Re:Anyone know any kehrwar and dadra duggans or any good duggans that you could possibly play in bhajans? Dec 24, 2002 01:45 p.m.


Vish ,
Check some of the older messages on this forum, people have submitted a lot of information on similar
questions. Unfortunately we may have lost some of these after the server crash. But I think there are still a few messages with bols for you.


Vish (Dec 23, 2002 07:40 a.m.):
I am looking for some duggans that i could play in Bhajhans, as i am finding it hard to make them up and i need some serious HELP!!
Parag
Re:Anyone know any kehrwar and dadra duggans or any good duggans that you could possibly play in bhajans? Dec 28, 2002 09:13 a.m.


Vish,

I have learnt bhajani theka from my guru Uday Kangutkar.

In the typical Marathi style of playing bhajani theka (listen to Bhimsen's Bhajan CD's as a classic example), the following tradition is used:

dhi - na dhi - dhi na- dhi - na tin -tin na - (traditional)
tite tata tite tata tite tata -ta ta- single speed (prelude to singer coming back to main line)
dha tin ta da ta tin dha da (repeat) in double speed (laggi) (singer on main line)
dhin - - na ti te dhin - na ti te dhin - na ti te dhin (sam) (tihai)
back to bhajani theka

Simple as the above appears, to play this pattern with good sound and clarity and rhythm has been a struggle for a beginner like me !!! Have been practicing this for the past 2 years !

Finally, dadra in bhajans is relatively rare but you can play the following:

dha tin tin ta dhin dhin (prakar)
dha tik dhin gin na na dha tik tin ki na na (repeat laggi)

Best of luck !!

Warren
Re:Anyone know any kehrwar and dadra duggans or any good duggans that you could possibly play in bhajans? Dec 30, 2002 01:45 a.m.


Hey Parag say hello to Uday, last time I saw him he performed with Aashish Khan in Austin.

Also not sure about how your beats are seperated , is it one bol or dash per matra?
If not can you seperate each matra with a comma?


Parag (Dec 28, 2002 09:13 a.m.):
Vish,

I have learnt bhajani theka from my guru Uday Kangutkar.

In the typical Marathi style of playing bhajani theka (listen to Bhimsen's Bhajan CD's as a classic example), the following tradition is used:

dhi - na dhi - dhi na- dhi - na tin -tin na - (traditional)
tite tata tite tata tite tata -ta ta- single speed (prelude to singer coming back to main line)
dha tin ta da ta tin dha da (repeat) in double speed (laggi) (singer on main line)
dhin - - na ti te dhin - na ti te dhin - na ti te dhin (sam) (tihai)
back to bhajani theka

Simple as the above appears, to play this pattern with good sound and clarity and rhythm has been a struggle for a beginner like me !!! Have been practicing this for the past 2 years !

Finally, dadra in bhajans is relatively rare but you can play the following:

dha tin tin ta dhin dhin (prakar)
dha tik dhin gin na na dha tik tin ki na na (repeat laggi)

Best of luck !!


Parag
Re:Anyone know any kehrwar and dadra duggans or any good duggans that you could possibly play in bhajans? Dec 31, 2002 06:54 p.m.


Warren,

Each of the dashes correesponds to a pause. For example: Main Bhajani Theka is as follows:

Dhi - Na Dhin -Dhin Na - Dhin - Na Tin - Tin Na -

There should be 16 bols (including 6 pauses) in the above prakar that will be played in 8 beats (kaherva).

The Da of the laggi is played as a Ta.

I have listened to several semi-classical bhajan CDs by such greats as Bhimsen, Ajoy Chakravarty, Roop Kumar Ratod etc and this pattern is played amost 90% of the time.

I will mention you to Uday. He has been like a younger brother to me over the past 5 years or so as well as my guru. If I was more rhythmically gifted, I would have been accompanying him by now !

Best Regards to you and all of our friends on this wonderful site that David has set up !!!

Deepak
Re:Anyone know any kehrwar and dadra duggans or any good duggans that you could possibly play in bhajans? Jan 07, 2003 06:19 a.m.


Following is the laggi which you can play in dadra

Dha tir gidnaag tirkeeT
Taa tir gidnaag tirkeeT

tir is same as tite.

Play this laggi in duggan adn join back to slow Dadra. It sounds very sweet.

Deepak

Vivek
Re:Anyone know any kehrwar and dadra duggans or any good duggans that you could possibly play in bhajans? May 30, 2003 02:45 p.m.


imho these are all great techniques, i'm used to the exact same sequence for kaherwa

for dadra laggi i prefer to use a slightly different technique, tho

Dha- titi gege naga tinna kena
ta- tite gege naga Dhinna gena

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