INDIAN MUSIC FORUM ARCHIVES: Tabla Forum: I have a question.

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Mr.Buzz

I have a question.

Nov 11, 2001 03:53 p.m.

Hello,

I am just starting tabla, its been a couple months now.

i just want to know what tihai's are and when they are used?

Thanks. .

Mr.Buzz

Dhaval

Re:I have a question.

Nov 11, 2001 04:15 p.m.

Tihai's are small compositions. They are played mostly during end of a kaida

For eg: the most simple kaida Dha Dha Ti T - tin taal

tihai will be

dha dha ti ti
dha dha tin na
dha 1 2 3
dha dha ti ti
dha dha tin na
dha 1 2 3
dha dha ti ti
dha dha tin na
dha - Ends here - this is ur first beat of basic tin taal

1 2 3 are empty beats. you can either fill those with anything you want or can keep those empty. so you see its played three times and the last beat of your tihai is your first beat of tin taal. it could also end up at some other positions like 5 beat, 13th beat, etc. . but then u have to be very carefull and keep track of ur beats or else you will confuse the main artist.

Hope that helps. . .

Cheers
-Dhaval

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.

Nov 12, 2001 04:12 p.m.

Thanks. .
that cleared everything up. .
in fact im learning tihais right now. .and that is the same example i am learning. =)

thanks again. .

Mr.Buzz

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.	Nov 12, 2001 04:15 p.m.
I have another question. . . well, more of a favour. . i would appreciate it if someone could post some variations in keherva taal. . preferrably most common in bhajans. . thanks

BuddhistMonk

Re:I have a question.

Nov 12, 2001 04:47 p.m.

Dha Ge Na Ti | Na Ka Dhin Na|

Dhin Na Dha Ge | Na Ti Na Ka |

Dha Ti Ta Na | Ta Dhe Te Ta |

(Bhajan )
Dhi NaDhi -Dhi NaGa | Ti NaTi -Ti NaGa |

You want some more? Theres more in the Fundamentals of Tabla book. They are harder to explain.

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.	Nov 13, 2001 08:22 a.m.
I'd love some more. . . thanks for those ones. .they're great. .

Rahul

Re:I have a question.	Nov 15, 2001 05:04 p.m.
Some more Bhajani varieties: 1) Dhin TaDhin Ke Tak \| Tin TaTin Ke Tak 2) Dha Tita Tak Tin \| Ta Tit Nak Dhin ( Nak is same as Tak ) 3) In variation (1), replace Tak by TiraKit to sound like: Din TaDhin ke Tirakit \| Tin TaTin ke Tirakit Tirakit must come out clean and fast. Hope these add to your collection of Bhajani Thekas. Enjoy!

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.	Nov 16, 2001 03:18 p.m.
How is tak played?

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.	Nov 17, 2001 11:57 a.m.
These are great. . keep em coming. . how bout some other keherwaa variations?

BuddhistMonk

Re:I have a question.

Nov 18, 2001 09:17 p.m.

Dha Ge Na Ka | Na Ka Dhin Na

Dha Ge Dha Na | Na Ka Dhin Na

Dha Ge Dha Ka | Na Ka Dhin Na

Dha -Na Dha Dhin | Na Ka Dhi Na

Dha Dhin Na Dhin | Na Ka Dhi Na

Dha Dhin - Dhi | Na Ka Dhi Na

Dha - Tin Na | Na ka Dhi Na

Thats it for now, get those down and tell me if you need more.

Rahul

Re:I have a question.

Nov 19, 2001 12:35 p.m.

Mr.Buzz (Nov 16, 2001 03:18 p.m.):
how is tak played?

2 ways:
1) Play Ta/Na on Kinar followed by Ka on Dagga(left/Bayan/base)
2) Plat Ti( closed sound on Syahi ) followed by Ka on Dagga.

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.	Nov 19, 2001 02:46 p.m.
Thanks alot! If you don't mind, could you post some mukhras for keherwa and something to play in between :-)

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.	Nov 30, 2001 08:51 p.m.
There is this particular version of keherwa that is mostly used in bhajans and filmi songs. . . does anyone know? please let me know. . also, anymore variations?

BuddhistMonk

Re:I have a question.	Nov 30, 2001 09:09 p.m.
Sorry brother, I cant find any mukhras or anything else. Maybe David could offer some of the type used in Bhajans becuase I do not know of any. All I have it alot of variations like the ones I gave you.

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.	Dec 03, 2001 11:24 a.m.
Thanks for your help Buddistmonk. . . does anyone have any different variations to bhajani or kaherva thekas? if so please post. Thanks again!

tabla girl

Re:I have a question.	Dec 19, 2001 11:41 a.m.
Well Mr. Buzz, I know this might be late, but a tihai is a rythymic phrase or composition repeated 3 times.

Pedro

Re:I have a question.	Dec 19, 2001 07:21 p.m.
Well Mr. Buzz, I know this might be even later, but a tihai is a rythymic phrase or composition repeated 3 times, which last beat of the 3rd time is in Sam.

A.R.Chowdhury

Re:I have a question.

Dec 22, 2001 02:01 a.m.

Very common mukhra with kaharwa is

TiDha TiraKitatakata TiraKita followed by ist matra Dha Ge na. . . .
Same mukhra could be rearranged
TiraKitatakataTirakita Dhati. .

Cheeers!!

Mr.Buzz

Re:I have a question.

Jan 30, 2002 01:02 p.m.

Hello.

I have yet another question.

Ok, When exactly do you play your kaida's/tihais?